Josh schwartz7/2/2023 The Jimmy thing was more of a financial thing, but I would have loved to have found a way to keep him in the show, too. If I could go back in time and do it all over again I would have for sure kept Anna and Luke in the show. Part of it was I didn’t watch a lot of these shows, and the ones that I loved did not make it past one season. Part of it was I had never done this before, so the learning curve was steep. So you get to the end of season 1, Luke has been pretty much defanged. I wanted to give Summer her own version of Captain Oats. And my dad worked for Hasbro, so My Little Pony was a big part of that. She wrote it in as a throwaway line: “Don’t talk about Captain Oats that way!” And I just thought it was hilarious and then like any joke I just couldn’t let it go and had to just keep telling it. She was only with us for the six or seven episodes of the summer helping us break story. We should have done a better job of trademarking it. Eight days of gifts followed by one day of many, many gifts. And this idea of Seth being a guy who was an outsider but also relishes outsider status whereas some kids would feel like they didn’t know what to celebrate or how to feel about their identity, Seth very quickly would embrace the idea that this is perfect. The idea of being Jewish in Newport Beach was something that was very important to me as a part of the show. But it was the idea of the Cohens being half-Jewish. With the actual name, it was either going to be Hannamas or Chrismukkah. But I”d been wanting to correct the show for critics who felt like the show had lost what they really enjoyed about it in season 1 and season 2. Josh Schwartz: It’s always all your fault. And actually, that night I went online and I was like, “Oh, dear God, what have I done? I can’t believe I listened to Sepinwall.” And on the one hand it was, as you said, cause for celebration amongst a certain kind of viewer and heresy amongst more viewers. They had kind of moved away from doing programming like “The O.C.,” and there was a shot that there was no season 4. There was a version of the show not coming back in season 4. It was born out of a number of issues creative, cast chemistry, ratings. That’s not one person representing a thousand people.Īnd that was a very difficult decision creatively. For every one person who tweets about that, that represents one person. And that has been a big lesson for me, that the Twitterverse is a one-to-one ratio. And by the way, look at the ratings in season four.Ĭlearly there were more of them than there were of us. But for the teenage girls, this is the worst thing you’ve ever done. … for the adult audience, this is a cause for celebration. Okay, so to jump ahead for a minute, you kill Marissa at the end of season 3, which to a certain like-minded viewer… Meaning the Oliver story, I was hearing from people, “My kid is on the edge of their seat,” or I would hear from people when Marissa shot Trey that girls were crying, and then some critics would roll their eyes at that same stuff. So that is a moment where not just the bimodality of the show, but the bimodality of the audience became more apparent. People like yourself and other like-minded people, had a much bigger issue with Oliver than your average 10th grade viewer. I mean, this is the reality, that I certainly have come to learn having done this now for ten years, especially as social media as evolved. So two seasons of a cable show, four seasons of “Downton Abbey.” Josh Schwartz: Well let me just take a moment to remind your readers that we had 27 episodes our first season. But I’m saying that Oliver was really the first creative bump in what had been a pretty smooth road to that point. So he didn’t really come into the show until January. Josh Schwartz: He had one scene, I think, in the Chrismukkah episode. You did those first seven episodes through the Tijuana trip, and everybody thinks it”s all amazing. (Schwartz just barely avoids spitting out his coffee.) Last night, I posted the first part of a very long interview with the series” creator Josh Schwartz, focusing on the show”s origins, casting the main characters and developing the sound of “The O.C.” In part 2, we spend more time on the ups and downs of the series as it continued well past the point anyone expected it to, and as rookie showrunner Schwartz had to figure out what to do after cramming three seasons” worth of plot into his first one. Tonight is the 10th anniversary of the premiere of “The O.C.” on FOX. We’re re-running that now in commemoration of the 10th anniversary of the show’s final episode. In 2013, TV critic Alan Sepinwall spoke with Josh Schwartz, the creator of ‘The O.C.’ to commemorate the 10th anniversary of the show’s premiere with a two-part interview on the show’s run.
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